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The Kenneth Cantlie Archive

Cantlie Project Archivist Leena Lindell shares the story of a man who travelled the world and carved his career in the railways of three continents.

The National Railway Museum’s archive holds many undiscovered treasures. Our most recent cataloguing project tackles the papers of Kenneth Cantlie (1899-1986), an engineer who carved an international career designing locomotives, coaches, bridges and railway lines in far-away places such as China, India and Argentina. However, Kenneth Cantlie was not only a railway engineer: his godfather was the legendary first president of China and he frequently rubbed elbows with the British and Chinese political elite, delivering secret messages and providing information to both governments during the volatile cold war era. Who exactly was Kenneth Cantlie?

Self-photograph by Kenneth Cantlie in Posadas, Argentina, 1923
Self-photograph by Kenneth Cantlie in Posadas, Argentina, 1923. The slightly cross-eyed expression is a result of a loss of the right eye in childhood, forcing Cantlie to wear a glass eye. The caption at the back reads ‘In the cabin of the Persiquero [?]. I lived in this laid up steamer for 6 months’. (CANT/1/101).

Kenneth Cantlie is not a very well-known engineer in the UK, although his career spanned over seven decades and took him to all corners of the world. His career in railways started at the London & North Western Railway’s Crewe Workshops during the First World War, continuing at the Entre dos Rios Railway in Argentina and the Jodphur Railway in India in the 1920s. The Cantlie archive contains documents describing the life, personal observations and also expectations placed upon the young British men who were recruited by railway companies and sent to distant and exotic locations during the era (see CANT/1/100, CANT/1/101, CANT/1/102 and CANT/1/103).

A class K7 4-8-4 locomotive
A class K7 4-8-4 locomotive towing a passenger train on the main line at Nanking, China. No date, between the late 1930s and 1940s (CANT/1/40).

In the early 1930s, Cantlie was instrumental in helping to rebuild the war-torn railways of China and he was the designer of famous class K7 4-8-4 locomotives. These were the first mainline engines designed in China and built at the Vulcan Foundry in Lancashire during the mid-1930s, being the largest engines manufactured in Britain up until that time. One of these enormous engines stands today in the National Railway Museum’s Great Hall and is one of the very few surviving locomotives of the class. The Cantlie archive contains rare documents, blueprints and correspondence from the early 1930s relating to the design and tendering of the 4-8-4 engines (CANT/1/5, CANT/1/6, CANT/1/7).

To find out more about the museum’s acquisition of the locomotive, have a read of Bob Gwynne’s blog post Six Degrees of Separation and the ‘Chinese Engine’.

The museum's Chinese engine is unloaded from a ship
The Chinese government donated one of the K7 class 4-8-4 locomotives to the National Railway Museum in 1981. Cantlie participated in the celebrations and gave talks on designing the engine. Here the Chinese engine is being offloaded from a ship at Kent (CANT/1/40).

Cantlie’s career wasn’t just about engineering: he was involved in rebuilding German industry in Westphalia during the Second World War as the head of mechanical engineering in the Control Commission for Germany and promoted British rail industry for almost three decades in Europe, India, Africa, the Middle East and the Americas working for Locomotive Manufacturers’ Association and Giesl, among others. His connections and expertise were used by businesses and governments alike, as he was well-versed in Chinese customs and negotiating with international organisations and companies.

A photograph of Kenneth Cantlie
Kenneth Cantlie’s photograph with a caption ‘Looking up at the Rock of Gibraltar 21st December 1942. Taken for a passport to Lisbon through Spain to get to W.O. [War Office] before Christmas ’ (CANT/2/1).

However, one of the most intriguing aspects of his life started even before Kenneth was born. His father, Sir James Cantlie (1851-1926) was a surgeon and specialist in tropical diseases and one of the founders of the Hong Kong College of Medicine. Among his students was Sun Yat-Sen (1866-1925), a revolutionary who later became the first president of the first Republic of China. In 1896 Dr Sun Yat-Sen was held captive at the Chinese Legation in London by the Qing Dynasty and Sir James and Kenneth’s mother Lady Cantlie were instrumental in campaigning for his freedom. The collection contains article drafts and notes by Cantlie reminiscing the event and especially his mother’s involvement in protecting the identities of other revolutionaries, for example by going to Sun Yat-Sen’s home and destroying a revealing list of names during his captivity (see CANT/1/64).

Kenneth Cantlie and Phyllis Cage-Brown had three sons
Kenneth Cantlie and Phyllis Cage-Brown (1896-1965) had three sons: two eldest Hugh and Paul were born in China and youngest Bruce in Britain. The photograph shows Hugh and Paul enjoying seaside in 1937, on the year of their brother Bruce’s birth when the family had possibly already returned from China. Later in the same year, the Sino-Japanese war broke out and their family home in Nanking was destroyed (CANT/2/2)

Dr Sun Yat-Sen remained a close family friend and later became the godfather of Kenneth Cantlie. The Cantlie family was well-respected in China and were invited to several celebrations related to Sun Yat-Sen, such as his state funeral in 1929 when his remains were interred to a mausoleum on top of the imposing Purple Mountain in Nanking. There Kenneth Cantlie met the son of Sun Yat-Sen, Sun Fo, who was at the time the Minister of Railways and subsequently employed Kenneth as a Technical Advisor to the Ministry of Railways.

Kenneth Cantlie’s employment certificate from the Ministry of Railways, China
Kenneth Cantlie’s employment certificate from the Ministry of Railways, China. Translation: “Certificate (General No. 9). Mr. Kenneth Cantlie has been employed as Technical Adviser to this Ministry since June, 1930. He has written to the Ministry requesting a certificate to this effect, and this certificate is issued accordingly. Chang Kia-ngau, Minister. [Seal of the Ministry of Railways]. February 2nd, 1937” (CANT/1/4).

Cantlie made frequent trips to China throughout his career and was held in high esteem. He was one of the very few Westerners who travelled to China in the 1950s and 1960s promoting trade between Britain and China, not just railway-related exports but also for example foodstuffs, fur, Monotype printing machines, ships, road engines and agricultural engines through his company Verity-Orient Ltd.

Kenneth Cantlie with China’s Premier Zhou Enlai
Kenneth Cantlie with China’s Premier Zhou Enlai, one of the most prominent political figures of the era. No date, taken most likely during Cantlie’s trips to China in 1956-1957 (CANT/1/47).

Official documents and correspondence found in the collection also shed light on the political relations of the two countries in a tumultuous cold war era: Cantlie evidently provided information and photographic material on China to the British Department of Defence during the closed period. Crucially, he acted as a go-between for Premier Zhou Enlai and British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan delivering messages relating to sensitive political issues such as UN membership, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Sino-British trade embargo in the 1950s (CANT/1/64).

An extract of Cantlie’s notes on meeting with Premier Zhou Enlai
An extract of Cantlie’s notes on meeting with Premier Zhou Enlai (Chou En-lai) in 1957 (CANT/1/64)

This wasn’t the first time Cantlie was behind enemy lines delivering secret messages: in his publication Railways of China, Cantlie reminisces a mission in Manchuria during the Japanese occupation in 1931 and how he was delivering messages and gathering intelligence on the behalf of Chinese central government. An intriguing photograph from the same year shows Cantlie in the middle of men in air pilot uniforms, possibly referring to an era when the Republic of China Air Force (ROCAF) pilot training started in Nanking. The man on the left-hand side could very likely be an instructor training the new recruits. It is possible that some of the people in this photograph later took part in the largest and bloodiest battle of the second Sino-Japanese war in 1937 known as the Battle of Shanghai, where a majority of the ROCAF pioneer pilots of the era were killed and later celebrated as war heroes.

Kenneth Cantlie (middle) with a Westerner and Chinese air pilots
Kenneth Cantlie (middle) with a Westerner and Chinese air pilots in 1931. Caption on the reverse reads: ‘With flying officers at J[?]anfu 1931’ (CANT/2/1).

The Kenneth Cantlie archive is a diverse, visually rich accumulation of correspondence, official documents and reports, publications, articles, technical drawings, calculations, photographs, negatives and film. It was first acquired by the National Railway Museum over a decade ago and during this time the material has been mostly inaccessible. The newly published online catalogue aims to unlock the hidden content and research potential of these invaluable records with a scope reaching far wider than the life and career of one exceptional individual: it sheds light on the history and development of Chinese railways in the 1930s, trade, politics and Sino-British relations in 1950s and the overall influence of the British rail industry and engineering on a global scale.

A striking multiple-exposure photograph of the Chinese engine
A striking photograph of the Chinese K7 4-8-4 engine with various overlapping exposures, taken possibly in 1950s or 1960s during Kenneth Cantlie’s trips to China. Photograph was most likely created by exposing same negative frame more than once, intentionally or by mistake (CANT).

In addition to the global themes, the archive collection paints a vivid picture of the man who accumulated it: a boy with a glass eye who, instead of being drafted to the battlefields of First World War, tinkered away in the railway workshops; a homesick 20-something listening to tango music and writing letters to his father in a steamboat in Argentina; an engineer who raised a family in China and a trade consultant embroiled in international espionage.

Kenneth Cantlie visiting the Yungang Caves, China
Kenneth Cantlie visiting the Yungang Caves, China in the 1970s or early 1980s (CANT/2/1).

10 comments on “The Kenneth Cantlie Archive

  1. Absolutely fascinating story of an incredible individual who achieved so much. The huge Chinese locomotive is a wonder and one of my all time favourites in the collection at York.

  2. The collection also contains material relating to the later stages of his career when Cantlie was acting as a representative for British industries and other companies, such as the Locomotive Manufacturers Association (LMA) and Giesl and travelling extensively in China, Africa, South America, Middle East and Europe.

  3. I was very lucky, in that I knew him as a very close friend and frequently had tea with him at 8 Chester Row, his London home.
    He was a remarkable man, who I shall never forget, he advised me during the formation of the British Overseas Railways Historical Trust, of which he was our first honorary member.
    I am so glad one of his 4-8-4 tender locomotives made it home to Britain, its important to remember that we the British gave railways to the world and that Kenneth Cantlie was part of that great story.
    His assistant and business partner George Carpenter sadly died on January 27th 2020, at the age of 96.

    1. Dear Mr Scott-Morgan,
      I am interested to find out if you have any references or information on a Mr John Carpenter, who was married to my great-aunt Esme Fargus. My understanding is that they spent a large part of his working life as a railway construction engineer in India and possibly Burma and Kenya. I do not have a date but he must have died in the 1960’s, and Esme in 1975 or 1976. At that stage they lived in Cheltenham and I met them both on a few occasions. They had no children and when Esme died she left generous bequests to me and my two brothers. I am eternally grateful to her for her kindness which provided me with financial stability. I am now 76 and, of course, regret that I never enjoyed more extended conversations with Mr Carpenter on his long career in railways overseas. I have worked and lived in SE Asia since 1995.

  4. Dear Donald

    I am sorry to say that I do not have any information on John Carpenter, except that he was not related to George Carpenter.
    Sorry about that, I hope you get a lead soon.
    Best Wishes

    John Scott-Morgan

  5. I visited York Railway Museum on the 22nd March 2023 and had a chance to look at Kenneth Cantlie’s 4-8-4 Tender locomotive, while there were few people around.
    Reading the explanation on the sheet next to the locomotive and seeing the picture of Kenneth in the cab in 1980, it brought back many memories of him and the many interesting conversations I had with him about railways and other topics.
    He was probably one of the last great British locomotive and rolling stock engineers and I was so lucky at a young age to know him, he was a great friend to me and a wise council, I will never forget him.

    1. Dear Mr Scott-Morgan,
      I am a master’s student in the history of science and technology from Inner Mongolia Normal University in China, my supervisor and I are very concerned about the designers of 4-8-4, because the locomotive was built for China at that time, I would like to know if there are Chinese designers involved in the design process about 4-8-4? Or do you know anything else about its design?
      Looking forward to your response.

  6. Dear Mr Scott-Morgan,
    I am Yang Fan from Inner Mongolia Normal University in China.
    My supervisor and I have recently been focusing on research in the field of locomotives,I would like to ask you, in Mr. Cantlie’s file, in the design of the K7 4-8-4 locomotive, did it mention that Chinese engineers were involved in the design of the locomotive?
    In addition, is there a way to access or transmit the relevant files of Cantlie on the Internet?
    I look forward to hearing from you!Thank you for considering my request.

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